Tread Perilously is a podcast in which hosts Erik Amaya and author Justin Robinson watch the “worst” episodes of popular TV shows, attempting to determine if they would continue to watch the series based on the most off-key moments.

This Week: Supernatural‘s “Shut Up, Dr. Phil”

Tread Perilously rounds out a witchy October with the annual visit to Supernatural. This year: an episode called “Shut Up, Dr. Phil.”

To keep his mind off murdering Amy Pond (No, really!), Dean convinces Sam to investigate a spate of murders in Prosperity, Indiana. The victims so far have some ties to real estate in the area. But when a contractor also dies, the signs lead to a witch. Is it the local developer magnate or his wife? Or could it be … both? Meanwhile, one of the Leviathans slowly makes his way to Prosperity in the hopes of eliminating Sam and Dean for good.

Erik determines, almost immediately, that guest stars Charisma Carpenter and James Marsters are the main reasons Justin chose this witch-focused episode of Supernatural. But the actors both easily earn most valued status as they elevate what might be a more humdrum episode. Despite not appearing on screen, Jim Beaver also turns out to be a MVP. Justin realizes he’s starting to forget parts of the show. Erik tries to figure out the season-long plot. Harry Dresden turns out not to be a favorite. A discussion in the weeds leads back to Supergirl and the current state of the MCU, ridiculous sandwiches become a scourge, and a new Batman villain makes a surprise appearance.

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